Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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davpel
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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txyaloo wrote:
joedeveloper wrote:Uhm yeah to say the least. That's pretty jacked up if they are not allowing people to use it. If they are blocking you from using it, then they have basically said, oops so sorry we have bricked your device!
How do you figure that? If it were an official update, then sure, you could say that, but it's not. It's an unofficial leak. Logitech has no duty to support the leak, enable back-end servers, etc. People knew it was a leak and took that risk. Plenty of other companies take the same stance. Devices being "bricked" are completely the end user's fault.
It is one thing if someone installs a leak and, either due to user error or problems with the build itself, the device winds up bricked. I would never expect either Logitech or Google to provide support in such a situation. However, it is quite another matter for a company to purposely brick a device in response to a leak. The latter is malicious and serves no real purpose other than to punish those who are likely the brand's most devoted and fervent supporters. Even Apple, the most locked-down, "my way or the highway" tech company on this planet has not taken the opportunity to brick users who have jailbroken their IOS devices.

If this turns out to be true, I can really see myself being done with the experiment that is/was GTV and moving back to Apple TV or a Boxee Box. After being one of the initial buyers of GTV the first day of release and dealing with a complete lack of functionality (you could argue that the device is less functional than it was on Day 1 given the subsequent network blocks and the ever-diminishing capability of the media player) and the promised updates which never materialize, I will be furious if GTV now tries to shut the door on users like me who turn to betas and leaks merely to get some of the functionality which was originally promised two years ago at Google I/O.
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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davpel wrote:
txyaloo wrote:
joedeveloper wrote:Uhm yeah to say the least. That's pretty jacked up if they are not allowing people to use it. If they are blocking you from using it, then they have basically said, oops so sorry we have bricked your device!
How do you figure that? If it were an official update, then sure, you could say that, but it's not. It's an unofficial leak. Logitech has no duty to support the leak, enable back-end servers, etc. People knew it was a leak and took that risk. Plenty of other companies take the same stance. Devices being "bricked" are completely the end user's fault.
It is one thing if someone installs a leak and, either due to user error or problems with the build itself, the device winds up bricked. I would never expect either Logitech or Google to provide support in such a situation. However, it is quite another matter for a company to purposely brick a device in response to a leak. The latter is malicious and serves no real purpose other than to punish those who are likely the brand's most devoted and fervent supporters. Even Apple, the most locked-down, "my way or the highway" tech company on this planet has not taken the opportunity to brick users who have jailbroken their IOS devices.

If this turns out to be true, I can really see myself being done with the experiment that is/was GTV and moving back to Apple TV or a Boxee Box. After being one of the initial buyers of GTV the first day of release and dealing with a complete lack of functionality (you could argue that the device is less functional than it was on Day 1 given the subsequent network blocks and the ever-diminishing capability of the media player) and the promised updates which never materialize, I will be furious if GTV now tries to shut the door on users like me who turn to betas and leaks merely to get some of the functionality which was originally promised two years ago at Google I/O.
Yeah it's not even a software brick. It's not a brick like you would call other bricks.

It's a block.
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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Well if it is a block then when it is remove and the official build is release we block people should be able to get the final build right?
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MechDragon79 wrote:Well if it is a block then when it is remove and the official build is release we block people should be able to get the final build right?
Here's hoping.
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MechDragon79 wrote:Well if it is a block then when it is remove and the official build is release we block people should be able to get the final build right?
Yes, as long as you do the same procedure it should flash the update.zip just fine. Just need the update.zip now for the final build is what I'm thinking.
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I hope so I have been planning on getting a second revue anyway and the price drop helps make that decision easier but hope the final build come by the time I get a new revue.
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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So there are people on the forum who have Revues on 3.1 that can't be set up right? What are you guys doing? Just sitting their with a non functioning box for now?

Also, I don't see any other sites talking about this login problem.
cesarb
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Pinesal wrote:So there are people on the forum who have Revues on 3.1 that can't be set up right? What are you guys doing? Just sitting their with a non functioning box for now?

Also, I don't see any other sites talking about this login problem.
Yeah pretty much i guess. I dunno if you guys wanna use me as a guinea pig... lol
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

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cesarb wrote:
Pinesal wrote:So there are people on the forum who have Revues on 3.1 that can't be set up right? What are you guys doing? Just sitting their with a non functioning box for now?

Also, I don't see any other sites talking about this login problem.
Yeah pretty much i guess. I dunno if you guys wanna use me as a guinea pig... lol
This is the most active site for talking about it, I doubt any other forums have anything going on with it.

I wish I had a box so that I could wireshark and see what you guys are seeing. You would need to setup some packet sniffer on your home network. Usually routers have to allow this and most of the home routers don't have options to do a packet dump of recent packet activity. Usually it's the more expensive home routers and commercial routers.

One thing you can try to see the outgoing message from the revue box:

1. Download wireshark onto your computer - http://www.wireshark.org/
2. Open it up and get it ready to go, read up a bit if you aren't familiar with it, but you'll wanna start by tracing for TCP and UDP packets.
3. Plug your revue into your computer/laptop via cat5/cat6 cable. Instead of wifi, or hardline to your network.
4. Make sure you do this right before you click next on the step that is failing.

The goal is to capture the packets that the revue is trying to send out. When it sends, if you have wireshark tracing, you should be able to see the IP it was trying to send to, as well as the message it was trying to send.

Based on that knowledge you can then craft the same message to the same IP address and capture the response coming back from the backend.

Let me know if this makes sense to anyone and if they can get it to capture anything.
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Re: Discuss HC 3.1 after installed/ Bug report

Post by dplawrance »

Well,, I think I really screwed up. After loading up, verifying, and installing the files, my Revue reset and came back up with a white triangle with an exclamation point. I was able to get into the Honeycomb recovery module, but I can't seem to reinstall because it fails trying to find /sdcard. Suggestions appreciated!

David

Update: Man, it was simple. Looks like the Honeycomb recovery module only recognizes the update.zip file if the USB stick is shoved into the right port. The original version could also load from the left, until the reboot.
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